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Guest: Tom Curtis, President of Burger King North America
“We always had an objective there of something great. But what was really great was the journey, not actually the destination. And that's part of the reason why I came to Burger King.”
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Burger King has slipped to 7th in the fast-food rankings, losing its #2 burger spot to Wendy’s due to 'neglected' operations and complex menus.
“While still the third largest burger chain, BK ranked seventh in the fast food category behind McDonald's, Chick fil A, Taco Bell and Wendy's in 2022.”
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The $400 million 'Reclaim the Flame' initiative is a high-stakes bet on the Domino’s turnaround playbook, led by former Domino's CEO Patrick Doyle.
“Patrick is very much like a franchisee now. He has his own capital invested in RBI, and he absolutely wants to make it successful and make sure it's successful, not only just so he's been recognized as done a good job, but also because he's heavily invested in it.”
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Management is aggressively pruning the brand’s footprint, closing 400 underperforming stores to alleviate the financial burden on struggling franchisees.
“This is a seminal moment in time for us to figure out which restaurants have long term viability. There's a few out there that don't, and we need to take those off of our owners backs so that they don't have to bear the losses.”
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Store-level profitability has cratered by 20% since 2018, dropping from $175,000 to $140,000 in annual cash flow per location.
“In 2022, profits at Burger King stores were down nearly 20% from 2018. Their store level cash flow was about $140,000 in 2022. That compares to 2018, $175,000.”
INVESTING
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“Patrick is very much like a franchisee now. He has his own capital invested in RBI, and he absolutely wants to make it successful and make sure it's successful, not only just so he's been recognized as done a good job, but also because he's heavily invested in it.”
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Guest: Kyle Grieve, value investor and researcher.
“When I zoom out and look at John Malone's career, I don't really see just this pure financial engineer. I see an incredibly talented capital allocator who understood risk at a very high level.”
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The 'What If Not' Framework: Malone’s strategy wasn’t built on optimism, but on a rigorous 'deconstruction of hazards' that prioritized survival over growth.
“Knowing with certainty that the risk won't kill you is what liberates you to take it.”
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The $90,000 Opportunity Cost: Malone famously rejected a $150,000 executive salary for a $60,000 CEO role at TCI, proving that autonomy and equity are the ultimate long-term currencies.
“The real lesson here is in chasing what you know resonates most with you. John chose to move his family across the country and to take a much lower paying job... simply because he knew his own worth.”
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EBITDA as a Narrative Tool: Rather than a mere accounting metric, Malone used EBITDA to reframe TCI’s heavy depreciation as a tax-shielding strength rather than a capital-intensive weakness.
“In John's mind, EBITDA was a better proxy of cash flow than GAAP profits. It allowed businesses like TCI to avoid paying taxes as depreciation is removed as part of operating income.”
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Complexity as a Safety Net: While often labeled a 'financial engineer,' Malone utilized intricate structures like tracking stocks and off-balance sheet subsidiaries specifically to maintain control and safety during periods of heavy debt.
“John wasn't afraid to utilize complexity to increase shareholder value. Whether you look at his use of leverage, tracking stocks, or stock swaps, John was always concerned with safety.”
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Guest: Kyle Grieve, value investor and researcher.
“When I zoom out and look at John Malone's career, I don't really see just this pure financial engineer. I see an incredibly talented capital allocator who understood risk at a very high level.”
- •
The 'What If Not' Framework: Malone’s strategy wasn’t built on optimism, but on a rigorous 'deconstruction of hazards' that prioritized survival over growth.
“Knowing with certainty that the risk won't kill you is what liberates you to take it.”
- •
The $90,000 Opportunity Cost: Malone famously rejected a $150,000 executive salary for a $60,000 CEO role at TCI, proving that autonomy and equity are the ultimate long-term currencies.
“The real lesson here is in chasing what you know resonates most with you. John chose to move his family across the country and to take a much lower paying job... simply because he knew his own worth.”
- •
EBITDA as a Narrative Tool: Rather than a mere accounting metric, Malone used EBITDA to reframe TCI’s heavy depreciation as a tax-shielding strength rather than a capital-intensive weakness.
“In John's mind, EBITDA was a better proxy of cash flow than GAAP profits. It allowed businesses like TCI to avoid paying taxes as depreciation is removed as part of operating income.”
- •
Complexity as a Safety Net: While often labeled a 'financial engineer,' Malone utilized intricate structures like tracking stocks and off-balance sheet subsidiaries specifically to maintain control and safety during periods of heavy debt.
“John wasn't afraid to utilize complexity to increase shareholder value. Whether you look at his use of leverage, tracking stocks, or stock swaps, John was always concerned with safety.”
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