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Roommate ads beat dating apps for honesty

β€œMy gut tells me with no evidence is that people aren't genuine, aren't real on dating apps. The only basis for this thought is about 25 years ago, before Craigslist had dating sections, I met several women who told me they used the roommate ads for dating. Because in a roommate ad, a guy would be relatively honest.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Customer service taught Craig not to be a jerk

β€œI started realizing, for example, that a lot of my behavior, particularly in the IBM field, frequently I was a jerk, by which I mean asshole. I needed to listen people more and to be somewhat empathetic. It was needed for me to change. Doing customer service, you know, when I raged San Francisco and started doing Craigslist, doing that kind of customer service where you're directly interacting with people on a grassroots level, that can change your guy for the better, and that worked out for me.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Craig visited rule-breaking realtors in person and stayed nice

β€œWell, I just would wander in. I would introduce myself. They would panic. Then there would be introductions and photography. The deal is I wasn't out there, oh, to bust their chops. I just figured I needed to learn more about what was going on because while those ads were free, at one point, they started posting the same ads over and over and over again so that those sections were just unusable. I spoke to a lot of new apartment brokers, and they said that they didn't wanna have to post the same ads over and over again, and that if we charged a few dollars for those ads, that would solve the problem.”

β€” Craig Newmark - founder of Craigslist

Grab bars are now a household design criteria

β€œIt has to be a walk-in shower because of my previously mentioned decrepitude. I don't want to fall, and also not wanting to fall, I want a grab bar. I'm afraid having grab bars everywhere is now becoming a household design criteria for me, and I wish that was a joke.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Give Ivy League grants in milestone-based tranches

β€œLike, I'm afraid I've lost my confidence in the Ivy League schools. Two substantial contributions to IVs were fairly ineffective. I should have made those contributions, instead of big checks, should have made them big checks, but given out multi-year based on milestones. So that's a lesson, a little painful, but the money wasn't wasted, it just wasn't used as well as I'd like.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Brittney Griner's case got worse because Americans wouldn't shut up

β€œBrittney Griner. Nine years in a penal colony. That was a fun one because they just told America, like, hey, guys. Keep quiet. We can get her out. She's a nothing asset. Just everyone be quiet. And the the liberal angry, you know, housewives are like, no. I wanna say something. And they all just kept talking. And eventually, it's like Russia's like, oh, is this an important one? Oh, really? We'll keep her in.”

β€” Ari Shaffir - comedian and world traveler

Roommate ads worked better for dating than dating apps

β€œMy gut tells me with no evidence is that people aren't genuine, aren't real on dating apps. The only basis for this thought is about twenty five years ago before Craigslist had dating sections, I met several women who told me they used the roommate ads for dating because in a roommate ad, a guy would be relatively honest. And not married, one.”

β€” Craig Newmark - founder of Craigslist

Give Ivy League grants in milestone-based tranches

β€œLike, I'm afraid I've lost my confidence in the Ivy League schools. Two substantial contributions to IVs were fairly ineffective. I should have made those contributions, instead of big checks, should have made them big checks, but given out multi-year based on milestones. So that's a lesson, a little painful, but the money wasn't wasted, it just wasn't used as well as I'd like.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Honest people lose to liars in confrontation

β€œUnfortunately, during those years at first, I became less prepared to deal with bad actors. And I learned the hard way that if you're basically honest, if you believe in the Ninth Commandment, you will never be able to confront successfully someone who lies for a living. And that was a painful lesson that took a couple of years to sink in.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Pigeons substitute for the dog Craig can't keep

β€œI love birds, and I admire pigeons, and I guess I need a pet. I need a comfort animal, and hat bird or other hat bird aren't enough, but I hang out in front of the coffee shop, and then they'll see me, I'll wave around my bag of bird seed, the good stuff, and then they'll come and they'll rest on my arm, and then they'll eat right from there, and that makes me happy.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Simplicity beats fancy design on the web

β€œIn my ignorance, when I first put up the first Craigslist site, I just kept it simple knowing I have no design skills, except simplicity and speed is a design criterion, and people haven't gotten the message. I've seen designers do some very attractive work that no one has asked for, and I appreciate it. And since I relinquished any management control of Craigslist in 2000, Jim Buckmaster has kept the design clean.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Customer service taught Craig not to be a jerk

β€œI started realizing, for example, that a lot of my behavior, particularly in the IBM field, frequently I was a jerk, by which I mean asshole. I needed to listen people more and to be somewhat empathetic. It was needed for me to change. Doing customer service, you know, when I raged San Francisco and started doing Craigslist, doing that kind of customer service where you're directly interacting with people on a grassroots level, that can change your guy for the better, and that worked out for me.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Pigeons substitute for the dog Craig can't keep

β€œI love birds, and I admire pigeons, and I guess I need a pet. I need a comfort animal, and hat bird or other hat bird aren't enough, but I hang out in front of the coffee shop, and then they'll see me, I'll wave around my bag of bird seed, the good stuff, and then they'll come and they'll rest on my arm, and then they'll eat right from there, and that makes me happy.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Use a nine-second rule to dodge scams

β€œThe notion is that a normal, a very common technique of scammers is to rush you into something, to convince you of the scam by making it sound urgent. And if you wait a little while, stereotypically nine seconds, you can reconsider what they're doing and then you can evade certain kinds of scams.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Two Ivy League grants taught Craig to use milestone-based payouts

β€œI'm afraid I've lost my confidence in Ivy League schools. How did that happen? Two substantial contributions to Ivy's were fairly ineffective. I should have made those contributions instead of big checks. I should have made them big checks, but given out multiyear based on milestones. So that's a lesson, a little painful, but the money wasn't wasted. It just wasn't used as well as I'd like.”

β€” Craig Newmark - founder of Craigslist

US and terrorism operate as a symbiotic system

β€œYou ever hear the theory that terrorism and The US are symbiotic? Terrorism can't exist without The US dominating their countries. And The US, they can't keep funneling money to weapons without terrorists. It's, like, it's, it's we need something to be, like, hey. We're all against that. And then those countries like, look, they're all against us. So they just, like, they need each other to keep growing.”

β€” Ari Shaffir - comedian and host of You Be Trippin'

Grab bars are now a household design criteria

β€œIt has to be a walk-in shower because of my previously mentioned decrepitude. I don't want to fall, and also not wanting to fall, I want a grab bar. I'm afraid having grab bars everywhere is now becoming a household design criteria for me, and I wish that was a joke.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Small talk is bullshit leaving the body

β€œI wish I was as good at it as Jackson Lamb, who is one of my role models now, because of something he said in the latest book. He said that small talk is just bullshit leaving the body. And speaking as someone with very limited social skills, that's a way of life for me.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Honest people lose to liars in confrontation

β€œUnfortunately, during those years at first, I became less prepared to deal with bad actors. And I learned the hard way that if you're basically honest, if you believe in the Ninth Commandment, you will never be able to confront successfully someone who lies for a living. And that was a painful lesson that took a couple of years to sink in.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Craig moved his Craigslist equity into a 501c4

β€œWell, personally speaking, I've put all of my Craigslist ownership into a nonprofit foundation of 501C4. So all dividends, all sales of equity go in there. The way Craigslist runs is very unconventional. Jim's the boss. That act of putting all the equity into that 501C4, I called the Septuagenarian Fund because I turned 70 then, and that's where the money has gone.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Six months off social media unlocked massive creative output

β€œI took no social media. My brain was firing in a way that it hadn't fired in so long. It was just like all the the shit holding you down just, like, pulled off. And after not very much time, it was like, just thoughts creative thoughts were just, like, pouring out of me. I came up with this whole my storytelling shows up. I came up with this whole, like, how how to frame it all, how to do everything.”

β€” Ari Shaffir - comedian and host of You Be Trippin'

Coca-Cola allegedly hired death squads to suppress union activity

β€œCoca Cola would have people just like if you were, like, a leftist leader running for whatever, they were worried that if that person got in power, they would unionize their population, and that would cost them more money in the plants. And they would just have people straight killed. Straight up get them out of the way. For decades, Coca Cola has faced several severe allegations regarding the murder and intimidation of union leaders at bottling plants in Colombia and Guatemala.”

β€” Ari Shaffir - comedian and world traveler

Jackson Lamb's line: small talk is bullshit leaving the body

β€œHe said that small talk is just bullshit leaving the body. And speaking as someone with very limited social skills, that's a way of life for me. I don't quite have the personal hygiene issues he has. Although as I get older, I use aging as an excuse for issues.”

β€” Craig Newmark - founder of Craigslist

BART tunnel paranoia hit during a Fear Factor edible trip

β€œSo I I took this edible and it was an unregulated edible, so I have no idea. And it was way too strong. And I was I was like, why do my ears feel weird? And they're like, because you're under the ocean. And I was like, no. It was like the longest twenty minutes of my life waiting to pop out on the other side. Where I was like, we're under this how long has this fucking subway been under the ocean?”

β€” Joe Rogan - host of The Joe Rogan Experience

Small talk is bullshit leaving the body

β€œI wish I was as good at it as Jackson Lamb, who is one of my role models now, because of something he said in the latest book. He said that small talk is just bullshit leaving the body. And speaking as someone with very limited social skills, that's a way of life for me.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Comedy Central canceled Ari's show over a Netflix special dispute

β€œComedy Central is trying to force you into doing a Comedy Special, but you had a deal with Netflix. And even though it was completely legal and contractually legal for you to do a Comedy Special with Netflix, Comedy Central was strong arming you into doing it on Comedy Central and canceled your fucking show because you wouldn't do a special with them. Ari had a successful show that was doing very well on Comedy Central, and they canceled it because he wouldn't do a comedy special on Comedy Central.”

β€” Joe Rogan - host of The Joe Rogan Experience

Roommate ads beat dating apps for honesty

β€œMy gut tells me with no evidence is that people aren't genuine, aren't real on dating apps. The only basis for this thought is about 25 years ago, before Craigslist had dating sections, I met several women who told me they used the roommate ads for dating. Because in a roommate ad, a guy would be relatively honest.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Honest people cannot successfully confront professional liars

β€œOddly enough, I did become more trusting. Unfortunately, during those years at first, I became less prepared to deal with bad actors, and I learned the hard way that if you're basically, honest, if you believe in the ninth commandment, you will never be able to confront successfully someone who lies for a living. And that was a painful lesson that took a couple years to sink in, and it wasn't a good year or two.”

β€” Craig Newmark - founder of Craigslist

Stand-up comedy is universally seen as the coolest job

β€œAnyone I told that didn't recognize me when it came up what my job was, I'm like, alright. Well, I'm a I'm a stand up comedian. This is 10 for 10 countries. Everybody would be like, what? What do you mean? They go, like, for as a hobby? I'm like, no. It's a living. They're like, what? Grandma, come here. This guy just stand up. Bro, we have the coolest job in the world.”

β€” Ari Shaffir - comedian and world traveler

Working harder beats forced diversity checklists

β€œThere's a great black woman in Indianapolis. She's not in LA or New York, but let's get her. She has great stories, miss Pat. There's a great black comic in Houston, and he has these great stories about prison. Let's get him. They're not on these lists. You just gotta work a little harder to make your shit you know, it's like Seinfeld letting everybody else shine.”

β€” Ari Shaffir - comedian and creator of The End

Large foundations lose accountability past Dunbar's number

β€œWhat I find problematic is that when they have layers of management and too much spread out responsibility, there may not be enough accountability, multiple levels of sign offs slow things down. They operate very responsibly with annual budgeting and so on, and they do so in a way often that's too rigid. Plus, when they reach a certain size, like a 150, I think it's Dunbar number, then one part of the nonprofit doesn't know what the other part is doing.”

β€” Craig Newmark - founder of Craigslist

Wait nine seconds before clicking to evade scammer urgency

β€œThe notion is that a normal a very common technique of scammers is to rush you into something, to convince you of the scam by making it sound urgent. And if you wait a little while, stereotypically nine seconds, you can reconsider what they're doing, and then you can evade certain kinds of scams. I screwed up in that respect about ten years ago, but in a small way, I just lost a credit card number.”

β€” Craig Newmark - founder of Craigslist

Edibles dosed in 'X' had no actual mathematical value

β€œHe goes, they came in these doses, one x, two x, or three x. The problem is x didn't equal any number. So it was just some guy mixing up his bathtub full of fucking whatever, like, weed infused cookie dough and deciding what's x to him. That's not a mathematical equation.”

β€” Ari Shaffir - comedian and host of You Be Trippin'

Web design got worse because VC pressure forced enshittification

β€œThe big problem is that people to do successful sites as time went on had to compete more and more. That meant they had to attract a venture capital, I guess, who made more and more demands of them, where people had to, extract whatever dollars they could out of their sight, and then I guess that began a process of what Corey Doctorow calls enshittification. He captured the process much better than I just articulated it.”

β€” Craig Newmark - founder of Craigslist

Ford calculated payouts were cheaper than recalling the Pinto

β€œYou know the Pinto story? So Ford found out, and they realized it's cheaper to just pay people off that died from their car being blown up than it is to recall all these Ford Pintos. Because the Pinto had, like, the gas tank rather was in the back. There was something about the design where if you got rear ended, it would blow up. Investigators and lawsuits showed that pre production crash test had already revealed this vulnerability. But the car still went to market largely unchanged.”

β€” Joe Rogan - host of The Joe Rogan Experience

Simplicity beats fancy design on the web

β€œIn my ignorance, when I first put up the first Craigslist site, I just kept it simple knowing I have no design skills, except simplicity and speed is a design criterion, and people haven't gotten the message. I've seen designers do some very attractive work that no one has asked for, and I appreciate it. And since I relinquished any management control of Craigslist in 2000, Jim Buckmaster has kept the design clean.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Great work loses value if you can't communicate it

β€œA lot of this revolves around communications because a lot of people who do great work, because they're skilled in the work, are not skilled in terms of communications. I'm now considering two big grants both at the same major university in the neighborhood, and I need to help them understand that they can't rely on university marketing communications to do a good job. They'll have to do it themselves.”

β€” Craig Newmark - founder of Craigslist

Dan Patrick reversed course after meeting Ibogaine advocates

β€œBut that's funny because that's kinda what Dan Patrick did in Texas about marijuana. But to his credit, Dan Patrick met with Rick Perry and Brian Hubbard, the guys that passed this Texas Ibogaine initiative, and they convinced him of what this stuff actually is. And so they've donated so he's allocated rather a $100,000,000 in Texas for the Ibogaine initiative. But that's a sign of an intelligent man. Like, this Dan Patrick guy had this stance on weed.”

β€” Joe Rogan - host of The Joe Rogan Experience

A really good shower with grab bars is Craig's true luxury

β€œWell, let's say that there are some luxuries I enjoy. All the books I want, all the streaming TV I want, and my real idea of luxury is a really good shower. For me, a really good shower has good pressure. Doesn't have to be strong, but it needs to be strong enough. It has to be a walk in shower because of my previously mentioned decrepitude. I, don't wanna fall. And, also not wanting to fall, I want a grab bar. I'm afraid having grab bars everywhere is now becoming a household design criteria for me, and I wish that was a joke.”

β€” Craig Newmark - founder of Craigslist

Craig moved his Craigslist equity into a 501c4

β€œWell, personally speaking, I've put all of my Craigslist ownership into a nonprofit foundation of 501C4. So all dividends, all sales of equity go in there. The way Craigslist runs is very unconventional. Jim's the boss. That act of putting all the equity into that 501C4, I called the Septuagenarian Fund because I turned 70 then, and that's where the money has gone.”

β€” Craig Newmark

Use a nine-second rule to dodge scams

β€œThe notion is that a normal, a very common technique of scammers is to rush you into something, to convince you of the scam by making it sound urgent. And if you wait a little while, stereotypically nine seconds, you can reconsider what they're doing and then you can evade certain kinds of scams.”

β€” Craig Newmark

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