VALUE INDEPENDENT SONGWRITING

“The people there are, they work together, they're very friendly, but they're very rugged, but they're also like, they realize you need each other. Like there's a sense of like community and coolness. Yeah, you need each other. If your fucking car breaks down the side of the road, you could die, like someone's not going to let you die. They're going to pull over. In California, they're like, someone will get them. They just keep driving.”

“It just becomes impossible for any solution. You know, it's like all the red tape and all the hoops and things and all the permits or whatever. Like you can't even, you know, the road's blocked. Okay, well before we could even get somebody out here with a tractor to move the rocks, you got to call 10 other people to get it approved and in the process and then it's not. And it's like, that's the part. I'm just like, man, I wish I could just call Frank down the street with bulldozer.”

“I think we're doing something with ourselves, to ourselves, with civilization that we can't really fully appreciate because we're wrapped in it. And it's not until you get to nature where all that weight just gets lifted off of you and you feel more normal. And you're like, oh, this is where people are supposed to be.”

“It was so much fun, man. I laugh, I always talk about it. I felt like I had one of the easiest jobs there, you know, it's because my character was kind of a smaller role. You know, most of the time I'd work like one or two days a week, and then the rest of the time I'd just be like fly fishing and get lost in the mountains and just disappear out there. Yeah, it was awesome.”

“I remember going into it, you know, I didn't know what to expect really. I've done some camping and things like that and grew up ranching and all that. But this was a way different deal. And I remember I just had this like backpack full of gear, you know, and by the time I got out of there, like I just felt like all I needed was a pair of scissors and some way to start some fire, and that was about it.”

“Man, it doesn't matter how strong you are. It's not about, it's all mental, it's all in your mind. And it's all, it's not, I think I can, it's, I know I can and I will. And he goes, if you don't believe that, every time you go put your rope on one of those, on their backs, he's like, it ain't gonna happen. Yeah. He says, you see, you don't, it's not being cocky, it's just being confident and believing in yourself and having that power of mind over matter, you know?”

“It became a tool that all of a sudden I had access to this thing that was helping me heal in a way, like I could get stuff off my chest, like the things that I was uncomfortable talking about in conversation with folks, like I could put them into a song and like sing them to the wall. And I was just like getting that stuff out, like there wasn't anybody in the room and I was just like, you know, but I was getting this stuff out of me, you know?”