Texas requires a full trial even after a guilty plea for capital murder
“But because this is Texas and because he's plead guilty to capital murder, it doesn't matter. If he wants to die by the state, there has to be a whole trial where the jurors are told by the judge, quote, there will no longer be a first phase of the trial where you will be determining whether or not guilt has been proved beyond a reasonable doubt. Your sole duty now will be to listen to all the evidence that is going to be presented to you because you will be using that evidence to determine the proper punishment to be assessed.”
Search dogs circled the property and found Athena's scent ending abruptly
“But this is what's abnormal about it. When police bring in the dogs, the dogs keep doing circles around the main house on the property. That means her scent just circles the property and just ends. It doesn't follow a lead into the woods. It doesn't follow and go into the aunt and uncle's house. It's just around the property, and then it cuts off.”
Anonymous email to Oprah exposed the Duggar family secret
“Before they can even step foot onto the production stage for the Oprah Winfrey show, before they can even do a sound check. An email lands in one of the producers' inboxes. Before you air the Duggar family from Arkansas, you need to know the truth. They are not what they seem to be. Joshua, the eldest son of the 19 kids, has molested his siblings while they were sleeping, and the parents have been hiding the secret for a long time.”
Horner wrote a letter blaming a fake old man with a green van
“He writes in a note to the police later. Detective, my family is in danger. He writes that he's being framed for the murder of Athena Strand. He writes, don't tell the media. Don't tell my family. They'll tell the media. Don't tell the family of Athena until their lawsuit against FedEx goes through. This is between me and you, detective. As long as it stays between us, my family stays safe. I will gladly take the blame as long as my family is safe.”
He casually went home, took sleeping meds, and watched Game of Thrones
“He says after he kills a little girl, he goes home after a shift and, quote, I just went home and I went to sleep. I took my sleeping medication, watched Game of Thrones, and I was out. Did you take anything from her? I mean, not that I can think of. I mean, I might have found a sock, but I just kinda threw it.”
IBLP wisdom booklets blamed assault victims for immodesty
“In the wisdom booklet, they have this whole part on what to do, and it asks what part of your being did the offender damage, and which part of yourself did you damage with that bitterness and guilt. And it asks you to ask the question, why did God let it happen? And maybe because we're all fucking dimwitted, it gives you multiple choice answers. A, immodest stress, b, indecent exposure, three, being out from protection of your parents, d, being with evil friends.”
Michelle banned hide and seek to prevent molestation
“She said they can't play hide and seek anymore? Yeah. If your children cannot play hide and seek together because you're scared that one of them is gonna molest the other, you're doing something very wrong.”
Parents told police it was once when it was multiple times
“Joseph Hutchins, also, he is in prison right now, and he will come out to state that, well, actually, Jim Bob lied to me. He told me it was just one time. If I had known it was multiple times, I would have written him up and done something about it. But he told me it was one time, so I gave him a stern talking to, essentially like that.”
Tanner Horner blamed an alter ego named Zero for the murder
“And then it turns into, but it wasn't me strangling her. It was actually my alter ego, Zero strangling her because I have three alter egos. Tanner then gives the investigators his newest version of events that ZeRo is to blame for all of this.”
Investigators lock suspects into a statement to expose lies later
“One of the lead investigators working the case says, so my immediate thought is go ahead and lock everybody in on a statement. That's why they try to get statements as quickly as possible. They wanna lock you into one version of events. They're gonna try to find evidence that doesn't fit that version, and then they're gonna force you to change your version over and over and over again until you're just straight up lying. You dig yourself into a hole, and then you have to tell the truth.”
“It's very clear Jim Bob and Michelle, along with their son Joshua, are not at all the wholesome family that they keep trying to shove down our throats on TLC. And that is why in 2015, TLC cancels the show. And that is where I leave you with the audio part three of this case.”
Family chose a friendly officer now imprisoned for CSAM
“So that's what they do. They take Joshua to the police, and they choose a very specific officer by the name of Joseph Hutchins. He's a former state trooper, but he is now in prison, federal prison, for the next fifty six years for CSAM.”
Michelle's joyfully available blog enraged Anna Duggar
“But the crazier part is that this is written after the Ashley Madison scandal, and there are insider sources who know the family that said that Anna Duggar was fucking pissed because she thought that Michelle Duggar was saying it was her fault that she was not joyfully available, so Josh Duggar cheated on her. Which Michelle Duggar, why are you even writing blog posts right now? This is not the time for this bullshit.”
FedEx driver covered truck cameras with sticky notes days before the kidnapping
“There is footage from inside the FedEx truck where Tanner had preemptively covered the FedEx truck cameras with sticky notes days before the kidnapping, which a lot of people believe that this indicates he was trying to kidnap someone within the next few days. He made sure that he was in the same FedEx fan all those days and then even after the crime so that he could be in control of what they've been calling his mobile crime scene.”
Horner asked a Luvs clerk for cleaning supplies to wipe up Athena's body
“After getting rid of Athena's body in the bamboo area, he says that he went to Luvs, which is a convenience store and truck stop where he gets cleaning supplies. The lead detective is like, would it did they ask you what you're cleaning up? Because he didn't even buy the supplies. He says that he just went to the counter and was like, hey. I made a mess in the van. Can you give me some cleaning supplies I can use? So the front desk gives him some cleaning supplies. What did you tell him you were cleaning up? He stated that he was cleaning up vomit and feces.”
Jim Bob minimized abuse by comparing to other families
“Jim Bob continues, again, this was not rape or anything like that. This was, like, touching somebody over their clothes. There were a couple of incidents where he touched them under their clothes, but it was, like, a few seconds, and then he came to us and was crying and told us what happened. But as we talked to other parents and different ones since then, a lot of families have said that they've had similar things happen in their families.”
“Her husband, Derek, states that Jill's participation in this interview is, quote, I wouldn't describe it as voluntary. It was more like being thrust into a suicide mission. You're gonna be harmed, but they wanted you to take the hit to ensure the show continues because it cannot fail. They would do anything to recoup their investment even if it meant Jill was collateral damage.”