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“This story comes to us from the producers at Serial Productions—who invented the true-crime podcast more than a decade ago—and from The New York Times. Transcripts are available at thisamericanlife.org.”

“This story comes to us from the producers at Serial Productions—who invented the true-crime podcast more than a decade ago—and from The New York Times. M. Gessen returns to our show with a true-crime story that takes place entirely within their own family.”

“M. Gessen returns to our show with a true-crime story that takes place entirely within their own family. This story comes to us from the producers at Serial Productions—who invented the true-crime podcast more than a decade ago—and from The New York Times.”

“M Gessen tells Ira Glass about the surprising events that prompted them to begin reporting on their own family for their new podcast, The Idiot. They play the first episode of the series.”

“Ira Glass and M Gessen continue to talk through the story of M’s cousin, Allen Gessen. They play more clips from the podcast, and we finally hear about the big, shocking thing that snapped their family apart.”

“M Gessen tells Ira Glass about Allen’s trial, and we hear a recording of his conversation with the undercover agent. We finally hear about the big, shocking thing that snapped their family apart.”