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“An AI will be able to have a GitHub account and will be able to post and own an account and, like, also attest to five other AIs that these are, in fact, humans even though they're not. So, you know, there was area number one. Area number two was to just use government IDs for everything, which we just also immediately disregarded for a couple of reasons.”

“We started this company now a couple of years ago before ChatGPT and before all of that. But we kind of took that as an assumption that eventually, we will have AIs that both pass the Turing test. So they can just claim to be a human. You will not be able to tell them anymore on the Internet. It was actually really funny. It was, like, some of the OpenAI people that I met were, like, man, Alex, this is gonna be so dark. Like, people will hate you for not giving personhood to AIs. I was, like, Jesus. Alright. Let's call it proof of human then.”

“I think governments do have to figure out how to send citizens money. They're good at taking money from citizens, but not the reverse. If you go back to COVID, the stimulus program, like, I think $400,000,000,000 was stolen. You would have liked to know that you were sending the money to unique humans. The Medicare is so frustrating for people that they shot the CEO of UnitedHealthcare. And people are happy about that, like, really happy. So think about how bad a system that is. AI is just a way of making that kind of loose black market underground fraud thing just massive and extremely scalable.”

“And so for example, Tinder's already using it for that reason. We started in Japan, as a test market. And it's essentially exactly what we just discussed. It is, if you verified with an orb, you get a little badge that signals to other people that you are in fact human. It has a high level of verification. And then also, I don't think that's live yet, but what will come next is that you're actually the person you claim to be. So meaning you have a world ID that is associated to the kind of profile pictures that you use.”

“To solve the proof of human problem, you will need to distinguish one new individual from all previous individuals. You need to make sure that, you know, Ben is trying to sign up and Ben did not sign up before. And then suddenly it goes from one to one to one to one to n. And n is the size of your network, essentially, that you're trying to prove that to. And then you could just do the math and you can calculate how much mathematical entropy, like, how much information, just information theoretically, do you need to prove that. And it turns out that's a pretty high number because it's an exponential problem. And so then you can just do the math, and you find out that, you know, things like a face, or even fingerprints or something doesn't work.”

“Another fun one because I think it's somewhat convoluted, but I think it will be video conferencing, because you already have deep fakes. You raised it to me first, and that's why we started building a product for it because, you know, it will actually start with very high value users. Like, for example, people, you know, like yourself that maybe manage a fund. And, you know, sometimes calls actually could be very high value if it's about borrowing money. So somebody can be me and say, Eric, can you please wire this Nigerian prince $400,000,000.”

“There's this one paper that I think you could lead it after, but it was the change my mind subreddit where the University of Zurich did this thing where they had AIs actually interact with Change My Mind. And they were superhuman in their ability to change it because they were going back to the profile of the people posting it. They were understanding their political motivation, the way they talk, and they were just interacting in the perfect way. The AIs are really good at programming humans. That's much better than humans are at programming AIs.”

“One thing that we will launch soon, and the team is gonna hate that I'm saying this now, but it's gonna be orb on demand. Just because, actually, it's such a gnarly problem to get an orb to truly everyone. The CapEx is insane. So it's actually much cheaper and easier to just put an Orb on a motorbike and drive it to you. So in places like the Bay Area or New York, you will just be able to say, yeah, I wanna verify now. And fifteen minutes later, there's an orb comes to your work that you can verify.”