212: The Other Man

Key Takeaways

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  Technical skill trumps raw intensity in combat - even individuals with high aggression find that without specialized training, they are quickly overcome by the physical realities of grappling and oxygen deprivation.

  “Man, that ain't going to matter if you don't have that oxygen in you.”

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  Extreme music can serve as a vessel for faith - despite the demonic labels often applied to deathcore's guttural vocals and dark imagery, artists use the genre as an intentional, Christ-honoring form of expression.

  “People are just like, you know, this is demonic. Like the sounds coming out of that, that man, they're clearly demonic.”

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  Longevity is the ultimate antidote to criticism - by consistently maintaining an artistic vision over decades, creators eventually move past the phase of public backlash and into a space of established respect.

  “Once you pass that, then they're like, oh, he's not going away and he's not being bothered by it. I'm going to go see him the next time.”

Episode Description

What happens when a new guy comes on the scene and changes the way everyone relates to each other? Visit thisamericanlife.org/lifepartners to sign up for our premium subscription. Prologue: Ira talks with Sarah Koenig about the first and only time a movie star came to her family's house when she was a kid. It didn't go well, for the celebrity or for her. The star was Robert Redford. He arrived and immediately stole all the attention her parents usually lavished on her, their youngest. Worse, they were nervous and strange around him, not themselves at all. Young Sarah was not pleased. Robert Redford paid the price. (6 minutes) Act One: Davy Rothbart's mother is funny, rational, and by most measures, pretty normal. Except that she spends every day in the company of an ancient Buddhist monk named Aaron, who no one else can see. Davy talks to his brothers, father, and eventually his mom, and asks the question they've somehow never managed to discuss: do any of them actually believe he's real? (26 minutes) Act Two: Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. had always lived in the shadow of his father's name. But just before his primary, an aide delivered strange news: a second Jesse Jackson had appeared on the same ballot — a retired truck driver with no political experience. Ira reports on whether it was a coincidence or mischief orchestrated by the Congressman's rivals. (9 minutes) Act Three: Jonathan Goldstein and Heather O'Neill tell the true story of a man trying to wedge himself into an idyllic family of two. For the first few years, Heather's daughter Arizona was not very fond of Jonathan. He ranked nineteenth on her list of favorite people, behind the neighbor's dog and the plumber. (15 minutes) Transcripts are available at thisamericanlife.org This American Life privacy policy. Learn more about sponsor message choices.