#2477 - Rick Perry & W. Bryan Hubbard

Key Takeaways

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  Ibogaine acts as a neurological reset for veterans - the compound shows unprecedented success in treating traumatic brain injury and treatment-resistant PTSD by repairing damaged neural pathways in ways traditional medicine cannot.

  “We've seen these special operators, guys who have been blown up multiple times, find a level of healing and a return to their families through ibogaine that the VA's standard of care simply doesn't provide.”

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  The veteran suicide crisis requires a shift in conservative policy - former hardliners like Rick Perry are now advocating for psychedelic research, arguing that saving lives must take precedence over the historical stigma of the War on Drugs.

  “I’m as law-and-order as they come, but when you see the results of these veterans coming back whole and healthy, you have to be willing to change your mind and look at the science.”

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  Opioid settlement funds should finance ibogaine research - there is a strategic push to use 'blood money' from pharmaceutical lawsuits to fund clinical trials, creating a self-sustaining model for breakthrough mental health treatments.

  “It is only fitting that the money paid out by companies that fueled the opioid crisis be used to fund the research into the one substance that might actually end the cycle of addiction.”

Episode Description

Rick Perry is the former Governor of Texas and former U.S. Secretary of Energy. W. Bryan Hubbard is the Chief Executive Officer of Americans for Ibogaine, a public policy education and advocacy organization working to medicalize ibogaine in the United States.www.americansforibogaine.org/joe Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. This video is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit https://BetterHelp.com/JRE Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices