John Kiriakou: Ex-CIA Officer CONFRONTED Over Zionist Accusations | PBD Podcast #783

“No, I I owe you an apology. As I said, you've you've shown me wrong, and I I'm sorry that I perpetuated an untruth. I think that the definition of Zionism has changed now. I think it's much more—well, depending on your point of political view—more reactionary or more radical than it was when it originated in the UK in the late 19th century.”

“One of the very first lessons that I learned at the CIA is that if you want to determine American military intentions, watch naval movements. You know, we can fly troops out all over the place. It doesn't make any difference. If you're going to send an entire aircraft carrier strike group, you mean business. If you're gonna send two of them, you're going to war.”

“Between 1917 and 2009, three people were prosecuted for speaking to the press. Just under Obama, eight of us were prosecuted for speaking to the press. I remember a friend of mine at the White House saying, 'Be careful of this guy. Obama has a Nixonian obsession with national security leaks.' And I said why? He said because John Brennan's whispering in his ear every single day, prosecute, prosecute, prosecute.”

“John Brennan, I believe, really did attempt to carry out a coup, not with tanks in the streets. He tried to do it through rumor and innuendo. And he tried to deny Donald Trump the presidency. He tried to deny the choice of 51% of Americans. Genuinely worried now that they're not going to prosecute John Brennan. I think John Brennan is a malevolent figure in modern American politics.”

“I said, 'Mr. President, my name's John Kiriakou. I'm the CIA torture whistleblower. Barack Obama and John Brennan ruined my life, and you were the only person who can give it back to me.' And he goes like this. He goes, 'Tucker Carlson told me about you.' He said, 'Talk to Pam Bondi. She'll get the paperwork done.' What would a pardon do? It would give me my pension back.”

“What section 702 does is it allows these continued secret warrantless wire taps on people. But again, on whom and what's the threshold? We don't know what the threshold is. Nobody will tell us. And so you get somebody like Carter Page who was doing what he thought he was supposed to be doing as a mid-level Trump campaign person and the next thing he is experiencing is he's under investigation.”

“Kerry's reading the speech and then he goes off topic and he says, 'You know, I was supposed to be the Secretary of State. I invited Obama over to my house at Christmas. Obama put his arm around my shoulder and he said, John, if you endorse me and if you do it before the Kennedys do it, Secretary of State.' I said, 'Bill Richardson has exactly the same story.' Barack Obama promised half a dozen people.”

“One thing about Clinton, I noticed it from the very moment that I met him. He hates silence. He wants to be joshing and joking and laughing and telling stories. Then Hillary walks off. She walks right up to us. She says, 'Jesus Christ, Bill, it's raining all day. I'll be in the room.' And she walks between us and I'm looking at him like, 'You poor man.'”

“What they're being accused of doing is giving money to the Ku Klux Clan, giving money to Nazi groups, you know, laundering money. There are very clear laws, very specific laws about money laundering. You can't do it. And if they've got documentary evidence that they did it, this could be the end of the SPLC. The 990s will tell you everything you need to know about an organization.”