Sándor Ésik

“The prime minister, Viktor Orban, was defeated after sixteen years. He started out as your basic liberal politician, sixteen years ago, but Been funded initially by his great enemy, George Soros. Yes. But that was back in the late nineteen eighties. But gradually, he grew close to Putin and started to work as Putin's agent within the EU, more like like a Trojan horse.”

“No. He never crossed that line because the way Hungarians work and the Soviets had to learn it in a hard way back in 1956 that we can take almost unlimited amount of soft power and soft oppression, but in the very moment when it turns hard, Hungarians go and do a revolution. So Orban very wisely refrained from hard dictatorship. Everything he did was soft and subtle.”

“It was critical of Orban, but it worked like a drug because if you always talk about Orban, it leads to a situation when Orban can feed you with talking points, and you just never realize that you are basically amplifying Orban's message even when you criticize it. So it it it it they they never realized that, actually, they shouldn't talk about Orban. They should talk about something else, And that was driven by the need of, like, clicks and subscriber, income.”

“It started off as, like, classical corruption, but within six, eight years, it became a complete state capture. This was the main source of economic problems. One is because the EU cut the funding, but the other problem was that the system became so centralized that everyone was lining up for business at Orban. And in that situation, it's not only the companies who are there asking for business, but individuals asking for money. So in the last, like, three, four years, you you couldn't tell whether if it's, like, it's a real business asking for just, you know, getting a contract to build a road or something like that, or is it someone who just wants money by kissing Guarban's ass?”

“Probably the most important thing is that Hungary is dependent on EU money. And the EU commission have really detailed requirements for the Hungarian government. It's like a 27 list, and has to fulfill those important Or or what? There are, like, €18,000,000,000, frozen, for Hungary, and and we desperately need, like, need that money because Hungarian economy is small, very small compared to it's like, I don't know, smaller than probably the size of Iowa in terms of GDP. So we need that money so the EU can keep on a real short leash because they realize that they they they made a mistake when when they didn't keep or ban on a short leash.”

“And it turned out that it was because of Gaspar Orban, like Orban junior's religious views because he's a member of some kind of, like, neo Christian cult, and he thought that it is So he's not Catholic? No. I mean, Orban's family is, Orban's wife is Catholic. Orban himself is Protestant, but this guy is a member of this, this sect. And he believed that Hungary should actually, I I don't think there's a better word to describe it, conduct a crusade in Chad to protect Christians in Chad. And what the really shocking thing that this captain says was that, Orban junior thought that a 50% casualty rate would be acceptable.”

“So some reporter asked Lavrov just days after the election that, what do you think about your friend Orban? And, Lavrov's answer was, he's not a friend.”

“Now that he won, I think he still can't do that because Hungarians still have these those ideas implanted by, Orban's propaganda. But I think what he will do is simply not being an obstacle anymore. So and and and I don't think that either Zelensky or the EU expects anything else. I mean, don't sabotage us. If you are passive, it's okay. If you don't come out, like, loving Ukraine, it's okay. Just don't sabotage the efforts of the EU.”