Jack Clark

“By April 2027, AI systems should be able to do tasks that might take a person a hundred and fifty hours. Now that what is that? That's almost a month's worth of work, which it requires strange things to happen in the economy.”

“I think if AI goes as far as people think, you actually need to re reconceptualize how how capitalism in the largest possible sense works. I think if you end up in a world where you have a closed loop production system with just machine to machine to machine to machine, and then people buy stuff, people need money, well established. So you need to tax the robots and AI companies, significantly, and you need to somehow find a way to reallocate money from this machine economy to the human economy.”

“So Mythos, and that seems to be really good at hacking if someone wanted to use it for that. And so you have not made this model public yet. You've given it to something like 40 or 50 companies to, I guess, gird themselves from the tool that you made.”

“I do think that the shape of this in the future is is parts of AI need to become actually a true utility where you would expect things like cyber defense capabilities to be something that you provide like at cost or at at the cost of it costs you to provide you with no margin. I'm sorry if my financial officer is listening to me say that but it's the it's the shape of where you end up in the future where there are all these capabilities that matter for society you need to proliferate those into society without charging society for it, or you end up in a in a really bad incentive structure.”

“I am struck by how my child constantly asks me questions. It's it's obviously sometimes, very enraging when you get asked the same question 50 times a day, but sometimes it's amazing, like, you know, why, why are camels, why do they have humps or anything like this. But but as you go into being an adult, you get kind of the the the skill of asking questions beaten out of you by by rote learning and and working in regular jobs, and your friends saying, for heaven's sake, Jack, like, stop asking these insane sounding questions. AI actually can answer these questions for you and can allow us to maintain that kind of childlike curiosity into adulthood in a way that I think is, like, very mind expanding and and wonderful.”

“So I think a good metaphor for the housing market is musical chairs. Like, the people who already own houses are sitting in their chairs and whenever there's a new spring housing market, some people get up and they move and they select a new chair. And if you're not adding more chairs in, you can't get first time homebuyers into the market so easily.”

“But if you were to add some luxury, plush, nice chair Yes, it's probably gonna go to a very wealthy person, but then that wealthy person is not gonna be sitting in the folding chair anymore, and that chair opens up for a first time home buyer.”

“My frustration with the way that housing works in this country is that it's usually determined by local residents, usually people who are homeowners themselves, who go to their local town halls or local city halls and advocate for less housing. Because they don't wanna see their neighborhoods change, they don't wanna see new condo buildings or apartment buildings going up. And the people who don't get a vote are the people who don't live in that area, but would like to move in that area, or the people who who maybe are kids, and one day they'll be adults and they'll need to get a house of their own.”

“Yes. That there that that demand if there is more demand, that should, in theory, push up price because if it doesn't, what you can have are shortages. And shortages are worse than paying more because then there are people who might be willing to pay a higher price who just don't get the option to. But I think there's I I I feel like there's kind of a backlash to that now. Like, sometimes people prefer things to be allocated based on a wait list because it feels more fair even if it is more inefficient because it's not just going to the richest people.”